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it's gonna be a long summer

I've been slacking on the posting lately, but Supernatural finale! I must react!

I'd stayed pretty well unspoiled for SPN for the last half of the season, so even though I was preeeeetty sure Dean was going to hell courtesy of Lilith's handbasket, I wasn't sure. I almost think I'd have felt ripped off if he didn't, heh. SO much buildup over the season, and then they discover a loophole in the last day? Would've been an anticlimax, imo. So as much as I squirmed seeing Dean on meathooks, and as much as it kills me in my SOUL to know he'll be there all summer, I LOVE IT.

For the record? That brotherly bonding/singing scene was the most ridiculous, awkward, embarrassing moment I've ever had while watching SPN. I know a lot of people have an embarrassment squick, and usually mine doesn't go off often, but this pinged me so hard. Ouch. I just wanted it to be over over over. Why does Jensen Ackles make Dean sing off-key? We all know he can sing at least decently, WHY DOES DEAN HAVE TO BE SO AWFUL? :(

Sam crying over Dean's body? OH GOD. You know how Dean's chest got all shredded via hellhound claws? That was how my chest was feeling while Sam cried. Oh, Sammy. As much as I hurt for you, I am also secure in the knowledge that this will prompt you to become all badass and dark, and that is all I have ever wished for when I'm down on my knees praying to Kripke.

I am so interested to know what happened to Ruby, though! And Bela! And I don't like Bela at all, and Ruby only marginally. But still, I want to know if Bela's on some meathooks herself, if she's going demon-y any time soon, if Ruby's back in hell and paying the price for attempting to help the boys...

So, what was the point really of Ruby not telling Sam that Lilith held the contract? That they'd want to go rushing off half-cocked seemed a little (ahem A LOT) flimsy to me, and it didn't just feel flimsy like Ruby was being manipulative, it felt flimsy like the writers decided to have it be Lilith at the last minute and had to come up with a reason why Ruby wouldn't have told them in the first place. If she'd told them, it probably would have gone down exactly like it went down in the episode (them not trusting her, taking the knife, whatever), except she'd have months and not hours to explain to Sam what he could do to save Dean. From the sounds of it, Lilith isn't exactly easy to get your hands on most of the time, hence the whole "shore leave" thing, so the boys probably would have had to come back to Ruby for help eventually anyway, even if they had tried to go off half-cocked.

I am looking forward to a summer full of Dean in hell and Sam being badass and getting him out fics. :D

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i'm glad i wasn't the only one embarrassed for the winchesters during the singing part. :/

ALSO: HELLO LONG TIME NO SEE.

shannon

I think I get more embarrassed for the actors than for the characters (although there is plenty for both) almost because it seemed like...Jensen was making himself sound bad on purpose? And not just that, but I almost got that feeling like, maybe he's a little self-conscious about his voice, so he figured if he made himself really bad, then no one could make fun of him for sounding bad even if he tried, you know? IDK. That's what I do, so maybe I'm just projecting. :D

Also: HELLO BB FOR REALS IT'S BEEN FOREVER. I KIND OF WISH REAL LIFE WOULD TAKE A DETOUR INTO THE MEATHOOK SECTION OF HELL.

♥

PLUS OMG I HAVE OPEN YOUR NEW FIC IN ONE OF MY TABS AND I'M SO EFFING PSYCHED ABOUT READING IT. JUST THE SUMMARY MADE ME FULL OF GLEE.

i watched an interview with jensen that said he thought dean would sing bad, which is why he sings bad on purpose, but i mean, it is kind of embarrassing for the actors becuz that whole actor/singer transition never works. (besides in super rare cases)

ALSO: YOU CAN HAVE MY REAL LIFE I AM BORED AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO SINCE SKOOL ENDED. :(

AND OMG I HOPE YOU LIKE IT! IT TOOK LIKE THREE YEARS TO FINISH! <3333

shannon

I WILL TAKE YOUR REAL LIFE! Or at least come share in it! Have you seen any good movies lately you can rec? Especially ones with slashable characters? I tried watching a few of the Movies To Die For that came out recently, but I watched the cannibal one (can't even remember the name) and some other one that was obviously totally forgettable and didn't make it past them. :-/ Have you seen Teeth? Hahaha, omg. Such a crazy movie.

I AM SURE I WILL! WHEN HAVE I EVER NOT LIKED SOMETHING OF YOURS? NEVER!

YOU CAN HAS IT! <33

uh, let's see. nothing really spectacular. all of this year's/last year's movies to die for SUCKED, so don't bother watching any of them. teeth was C R A Z Y!!! ~~and i really wanted her to end up with her brother. sick, right?~~ what else, what else...i've been watching mostly documentaries lately. and crime shows, lol, becuz i'm back home so i have my tivo again. but if i come across something superily slashy, i'll def let you know. ;-)

shannon

~~and i really wanted her to end up with her brother. sick, right?~~

KIND OF, BUT I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. Seriously, he was such a dick and kind of crazy, I think, but I so, SO wanted them to end up together in some fucked up, violent relationship (do I ever hope for any other kind?) :D

haha, yessss, exactly. WE ARE TWINS. <333

shannon

AUGH HI. HI. DID YOU SEE DEAN SAYING "I'M YOURS." AND IT WAS REHEARSED. AND SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AS AWESOME AS IT ACTUALLY WAS. THIS SHOW IS LIKE ONE GIGANTIC KINK FOR ME.

Oh lord, I'd been hoping all season for a "He still has his powers!" revelation and Dean going to hell so that Sam can pierce the veil of death and save him, but I forgot about how Dean had to DIE HORRIBLY in order for that to happen and GOD. SAMMY. SAMMY. SAMMY. JUST. HE WAS STUCK TO THE WALL AND HE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING AND INSTEAD OF HIS DEEP "DEAN?!" SCREAM IT WAS LIKE. BROKEN LIKE A KID'S. AND. GOD.

Ahahaha, the singing scene was painful until Sam started singing FULL BLAST and then I loved it. Sam never sings! But. He sang. He SANG. For Dean. And he knew all the lyrics! (In my heart, I believe that Sam had all of the songs Dean listens to all the time MEMORIZED WORD FOR WORD by the time he was like twelve. Sometimes, in college, even though he claimed to listen to nothing but alt rock and indie bands, when he was especially drunk, he'd choose a heavy metal song to kareoke to.) And then Dean like FADED AWAY and LISTENED TO SAM PENSIVELY and it was like. A good goodbye moment for me, Dean's last moments in the Metallicar listening to his little brother rock out embarrassingly, just for him.

Oh boysss.

(I CAN'T WAIT FOR DEMON BADASS SAM OH MY GOD HOW IS IT NOT AUTUMN YET)

AUGH HELLO MY DARLING! I SEE THAT I HAVE AN E-MAIL FROM YOU IN MY INBOX AND I AM SO SO SORRY FOR BEING SO BEHIND I HAVE NOT EVEN READ IT!

Oh god, Lisa, seriously. KINK x a trillion tonight. Them being each other's weaknesses and Sam getting all desperate and not caring what he has to do to save Dean and just alkjasdflkjdflkjasdflkjdsfALKJLDSKJLDSFKJSDLKJDSF. WHEN HE WAS CRYING OVER DEAN'S BODY I NEARLY BROKE. HE IS SO ALONE NOW AND HE FAILED AT SAVING HIS BIG BROTHER. But now he's just going to be that much more determined to take hell down all by himself and HE WILL DO IT AND LOOK DAMN FINE WHILE HE DOES.

Ahahaha, I love your canon about Sam's musical taste. I have no doubt that wee!Sam probably rocked out to all of Dean's music just because Dean did. HE LOOKS UP TO DEAN SO MUCH.

I KNOW OMG IT IS GOING TO BE SO LOOOOOONG I NEED BADASS SAM RIGHT NOW. THERE BETTER BE AN ABUNDANCE OF FIC IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

UGH. UGH. WHEN WILL THIS EPISODE BE UP FOR DOWNLOAD. CAN IT BE NAO PLZ. I NEED TO WATCH IT A MILLION TIMES MORE AND IT STILL WON'T BE ENOUGH. HOW SO PERFECT, MISTER PADALECKI?

I'm totes watching all three seasons over again this summer. I may not survive any other way. (Also. I don't even have Sam/Dean fic to comfort me. I DON'T ENJOY WINCEST FIC ANYMORE, JESS. THIS IS AWFUL. I find myself more and more attracted gen because I am so particular about my Wincest. No one does it quite right for me.)

Yes, he and Dean used to sit in motel rooms while John was gone and listen to the awesome music Dean was discovering through second-hand stores and garage sales. Dean would teach Sam the lyrics and tell him all about the artist like he was an expert, when really he'd just spent an hour listening to the guy behind the counter at the record store that afternoon. He still remembers how funny wee!Sam looked trying to yell along to the songs like Dean did, in his squeaky voice, and copying Dean doing air guitar but pretty much just flailed his arms around a lot. Then Sam hit puberty. And he would totally keep telling Dean that his music is LAME and he HATES it and it's so STUPID, because these are his whiny preteen/teenage years and he thinks he's too COOL to look up to his brother, but he totally does completely because he's adorable.

WHAT WHAT WHAT? NO WINCEST FIC?!? GASP! HORRORS! What particularity don't they get quite right? I'd hate to rec anything and have it fall short. I can sympathize, though, there are maybe two or three Wincest authors I read anymore, and I fear to stray past those comfortable boundaries.

SIGH. Why aren't you writing more SPN fic? You have all these scenes down perfectly, you just need to string them all together.

God, Lisa, I can't even. Just. Even thinking about Sammy pretending to hate Dean's music and now how he's probably going over every single hurtful thing he's ever said to Dean and wishing he'd never left so they would have had more time together and just overall wishing he'd been a better brother because DEAN IS DEAD and he is so devastated. :(

LOL I KNOW. I thought about this statement in the shower at length after I left that comment, and decided what I really meant is that I don't so much SEEK OUT Wincest anymore. I can't go into a huge epic story without it being Sam/Dean because I don't want to put THAT much investment in it and then have it end without THEM. Sam/Dean is better for me when it's spread out over a long period because I prefer first time fic rather than established, yet the more I get attached to the boys and develop firmer opinions on them, the harder I find it is to buy a wide range of "they get together like THIS" situations. So much first time fic is TOO EASY, when I really don't think Dean especially could accept it without Padalecki-sized amounts of angst and denial. Therefore SPN epics I'm awesome with because in my head I believe it would take THAT long for them to get together. But recently I read some REALLY GOOD GEN, especially by

kroki_refur, and I feel like I've been missing out on all this awesome creepy gen for so long. So right now if it's a short fic I'll lean toward gen instead. XD

And the thing I'm realizing that's pushing me even more toward gen? Even gen fic is pretty much Sam/Dean. The show is Sam/Dean. I at several points last night just flailed at the screen, "HOW ARE YOU SO CANON, SAM/DEAN, HOW." They are the two most epically in love characters I've seen on TV or movies or books - and I mean that completely seriously, like, I tear up at their relationship - they don't need to have sex to be so utterly canon and in love in both fic and actual show. It's CRAZY. I've never felt this way about a pairing before, just completely satisfied as long as they are...THEM.

But yeah. Even if it doesn't PERFECTLY ADHERE to my preferences, I'll usually read a fic if it's recced, no matter the length. Rec away if you happen to think of one! I still love Wincest, it's just too much work for me to seek it out (QUITE AS MUCH).

Laaawl. You realize I can't finish anything, right? Ugh, and I can't write Sam/Dean, it's just. Their dynamic has this indescribable SOMETHING for me that makes me afraid to touch it because it is so holy.

HEY BY THE WAY YOU FUCKING MADE ME TEAR UP WITH THAT LAST PARAGRAPH WTFFFF JESS. ALSO "OPEN YOUR EYES" CAME ON JUST AS I STARTED READING IT. And you know how I get about that last scene of TBD pilot, whether it's Open Your Eyes or Rebellion that's playing. D: NO WAIT NEVER MIND I JUST READ IT AGAIN AND THOUGHT ABOUT WEE!SAM AND WHINY PMS TEEN!SAM AND FOND!DEAN LOVING HIM ANYWAY AND SAMMY HOLDING DEAN'S EMPTY BODY AND REGRETTING AND I'M ACTUALLY CRYING NOW.

Oh, my. Take a look at the lyrics (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/snowpatrol/openyoureyes.html) to Open Your Eyes and tell me that's not the perfect Dean Is Dead But Sam Will Save Him song. The first stanza! And "'Cause they don't get your soul or your fire/Take my hand, knot your fingers through mine/And we'll walk from this dark room for the last time." OH MY HEART. We are going to see Sam save Dean, from death itself, and have a reuniting scene, in CANON, IN FRONT OF OUR EYES, LIVE ACTION. What other fandom has anything like this? And, um. Can we please have an AHBL/Mystery Spot/S3 finale fanvid SET TO THIS SONG, because I need a good cry right now.

My guess on why Ruby didn't tell the boys about Lilith earlier? Because it wasn't the original plan, until the writer's strike fucked everything up. (DAMN YOU, AMPTP!) Minus that slight implausibility, I thought the episode worked (as a whole) fairly well. The last shot (of Dean in hell) was ... underwhelming for me, to say the least, but I enjoyed the rest of the episode. (in the sense where "enjoy" is synonymous with "allowed it to break me mercilessly")

You've probably hit the nail on the head with that guess. I don't blame them for having to scrabble for an explanation, I just wish they could have come up with one that didn't seem so flimsy.

You know, I was really hoping for more with the hell shot, too. I mean, don't get me wrong, the meat hooks definitely got me on the "ouch" factor, and him calling for Sam kind of broke my heart, but I was hoping we'd get to see more of how hell functions. I'm guessing that's something we'll get plenty of next season though (or at least I hope.)

They are so good at breaking us, I really can't fault them for it. :D

FORGET SPN. I CAN HAS JESS SQUEE! :D HAI BB YOU HAVE BEEN MISSED!! ♥

I CAN HAS CJ! *bakes a ginormous pie, constructs an accompanying diving board, and dives in with you*

HAIII BB I HAVE MISSED YOU!

OMG WE HAVE ICON OTP! <333

HOW ARE YOU, LOVE? AND YES I AM SO DOWN FOR THIS PIE IDEA. OUR ROADTRIP STILL NEEDS TO HAPPEN, BTW.

This is the most coherent review I have read all day!

Tell me your secret!

*hugs*

Old comment is old. :D

Haha, no secret! I think I got my incoherency out of the way before I posted, so if you asked my family what my reaction was, they'd say coherency was the last thing I'd achieved. ;)

Why HELLO there!

I felt like it would be a huge letdown for me personally if Dean didn't end up in Hell. You're totally right: all this buildup and then a last second solution would've been weird. I kind of liked their representation of Hell -- it really wasn't what I was expecting to see at all.

I too, really want to see more of Ruby and Bela. They've been slow to grow on me this season, but now I want to see what happens to them.

Why HELLO there to you as well!

Absolutely, especially with the last two season finales being as dramatic and emotional as they were, I just don't think they could have topped it unless he went to Hell. And definitely not what I was expecting either, but that's a good thing. I know a lot of people have speculated that it's actually purgatory and not Hell, but either way, I really loved how they did it.

Even if we don't see them next season, I'm at least hoping for a mention of what happened to them!

*squishes*

I think my main problem with the Season finale was that it didn't make me cry. This sounds odd, but I am a HUGE crybaby, seriously. There are scenes from shows, SPN included, where just thinking about them is enough to get me teary-eyed (a SPN example would, of course, be every single scene in What Is and What Should Never Be).
So yeah. The end was shocking, and seeing Sammy lose it over Dean's body was PAINFUL as hell.
But we're talking about Dean, who is one of my favorite characters on air right now, DYING VIOLENTLY AND BEING TORTURED IN HELL! It was tough to watch, but.. not tough enough? I don't know if I'm explaining this well.

I absolutely agree about the Ruby storyline, it felt kind of pointless in the end.

Anyway. I'm very interested in what they'll do with it at the start of the next season, though.

No, I totally get that. I didn't cry either, I definitely gasped and gripped my chair harder, but there wasn't the sense of urgency or sadness that I had with the other two finales.

I know a couple people have mentioned that it might have been because it was shot differently, it didn't have as much of an up-close-and-personal feel to it, and I really think we could have seen more of Sam's reaction before they cut away. So yeah, I totally get it. I really hope they come out swinging next season and draw us back in.

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